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good afternoon and welcome back to

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nasa's johnson space center today we're

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having the post mission management team

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briefing this is for flight day two of

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the sts-134 mission and with us we have

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leroy kane who was the chairman of that

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meeting and also is the deputy program

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manager for the space shuttle we'll open

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up with comments and then take questions

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okay thank you very much well good

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afternoon it's great to have endeavour

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back in orbit

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i think most of you probably saw the

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launch yesterday it was

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after a very uneventful and flawless

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launch countdown

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the launch itself and the

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endeavors climb ascent into orbit was

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uneventful it was

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completely nominal and

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the performance of the vehicle

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to include all of the elements the the

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engines the solid rocket boosters the

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orbiter of course endeavor

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and and the external tank was just

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outstanding

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i want to say a few more words about the

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external tank you'll recall this was

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excuse me external tank 122

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which has commonly been referred to as

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the katrina tank

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the performance of the tank as i said

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was outstanding

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we had to do some work on that tank

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after it was damaged in the hurricane

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entire team that that got that tank

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ready to fly again frankly there were

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some folks who questioned whether we

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would ever be able to fly that tank as a

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as a flight element

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in the early stages and

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it's just a lot of hard work by a lot of

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of course those that

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that execute the manufacturing the

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at the michoud assembly facility just

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did an outstanding job getting that tank

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ready to fly

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a lot of engineering and integration

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as well as by the safety teams and

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various risk-based assessments were done

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and so just a lot of credit goes to to

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all those folks that work so hard on on

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getting et-122 ready to fly

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and as i said all of the all of the uh

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sts elements performed outstanding

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yesterday

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and so endeavor is on orbit

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and the crew and endeavor are in great

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we had very little to talk about in the

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mission management team today

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the the items of interest that we have

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are are very very minor

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in and of themselves and

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no impact to

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any phase of the mission so the

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performance of the crew and the vehicle

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is is outstanding at this point

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we are the crew of course when they got

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on over yesterday did their normal

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flight day one activities

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today they got up and and did the normal

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flight day two activities to include the

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inspection of the

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thermal protection system uh the

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reinforced carbon carbon wing leading

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edge all that work has been complete and

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we're getting all of that data to the

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ground and we'll do our normal

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assessment of all that data

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in the mission management team today we

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we didn't review any of that because

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it's not available yet

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the preliminary assessments that we have

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is that everything looks really really

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and we're not tracking any issues as far

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we will turn our attention here toward

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the rendezvous and docking which will

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starting tonight

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the crew gets up i think about 10 pm

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and gets into their renovated procedures

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around 5 15 local time tomorrow so

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we're very much looking forward to

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getting back to space station this is an

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extremely important mission for us

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i went down the hall in the control

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and talked to the alpha magnetic

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spectrometer folks they have their own

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little shop set up there around the

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and they're very excited

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they're ready to get ams safely on board

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the space station and get it activated

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so that's an extremely

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not just the agency or not even just for

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and so a lot of folks around the world

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forward to that that activity

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so things are are going very well on

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you may know that this morning and today

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atlantis rolled out of the orbiter

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processing facility and rolled over to

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and she's in the transfer aisle now in

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the vehicle assembly building will will

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start the mate operations for uh for

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to her stack and in preparation for for

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the next and final mission uh sts-135 so

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all right we anticipate that we'll roll

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on may 31st if if the schedule holds for

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where we are right now and of course

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that's the day before it'll be in the

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evening of that day

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that will be the day before our planned

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for this mission that we have in orbit

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a lot of activity going on at the launch

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here and in orbit and that's the way we

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things are going really well kylie and i

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think that's all i have thank you

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we'll start with questions here at the

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johnson space center

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oh thank you mark caro for aviation week

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followed you on the tps evaluations and

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a sense of when the mmt would like to

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be able to clear or not clear the

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vehicle so the rest of the mission

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activities can follow the schedule you

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okay mark the um the timeline that we

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summer honor about flight day five

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good chance sometime between tomorrow

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thursday we'll have our answer

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that assumes that all the data comes

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down as planned in our normal evaluation

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is that we're able to follow our normal

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in some cases the team is able to get

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but if not it's kind of in the friday

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for the soyuz undocking and possible

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photo imagery on that

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what what's the timeline for the mmt in

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terms of making a final decision on that

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have the time to evaluate that

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the normal plan would be for for any

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vehicle undocking from the space station

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they would do their normal process

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any more questions here

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seeing none i know we have folks on the

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line so we'll start with bill harwood

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sorry about that can you hear me now

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uh yes i'm here do you hear me cup yes

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hey i'm sorry i apologize do you hear me

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we can hear you bill

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i think i need to sell telephones or

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something okay uh leroy let me just

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fight off on the last question if i

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could i i'm i'm confused as to why

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you guys would even consider a fly

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have dual doc dops everything that's on

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the plate it really seems like a hurried

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effort given all the time you've already

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and i just don't get it so i'm just

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hoping you can give me some rationale

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for why you need to do it now if you do

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it at all

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okay bill yeah we um we have spent a

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operations just generically

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uh for various different kinds of

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vehicle activities while the shuttle is

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we really leveraged off of all that work

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the soyuz will undock

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we will do a

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small maneuver with the space station

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and then we'll take some some

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photographs from the soyuz

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and then the station will dock

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will

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maneuver back to

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attitude and that's really the extent of

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the activity

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so from a shuttle preparation standpoint

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we really just are going and reviewing

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the exact

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details of this plan to include

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as i said the attitude changes

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the profile of the soyuz

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what the shuttle and station crew

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members are doing immediately before

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during and then following the undock

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activity

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to be able to support it appropriately

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so

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it's really not a hurried up activity

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and and that's primarily because we are

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leveraging off of all of the work that's

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been done for literally a couple of

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years

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and then to include a lot of work that

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we did for sts-133

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and then this is really kind of a

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variation of what we were going to do on

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133 and it's actually

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what we're doing here is actually

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less complex

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in terms of the station maneuvers that

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we're going to do

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and what was going to be a fly around

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on sts-133

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okay uh thanks and could you give me a

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an update on uh on et i know you talked

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about dp performance and it was

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obviously i didn't see very much but i

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know you guys are tracking a few objects

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that came off can you update us on what

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you guys saw and what time frames you

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saw it in thanks

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we really only saw

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a handful of uh of items

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in the pre in the preliminary look of

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the at the ascent data bill

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and

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not changed that we did not brief that

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in detail at the mission management team

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today

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um i know we have those events available

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and we can we can give those to you but

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uh in summary there were a couple of

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debris items um from around the ice

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frost ramp and around the the the liquid

347
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oxygen feed line

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that were inside of the astt and there

349
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were a couple that were outside of astt

350
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for a total of i believe five five items

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on what we're calling four events

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because one of the events had had two

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items

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so

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that's unchanged from our preliminary

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report that i think you got

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that i think

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that bill gerstmeyer and mike moses

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reported on after the launch yesterday

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what i would

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that the performance of this tank really

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was

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outstanding

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the

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um

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were done in such a ways we were able to

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evaluate where we thought we would have

368
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some potential phone losses

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both in terms of the area

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and and to some extent the the number of

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losses

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um

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size of those losses

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and that's how we did our risk uh based

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assessment to be able to to go fly this

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tank safely

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and so what the team uh assessed

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in terms of uh

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of the performance and the expectations

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for the tank really we

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exceeded that by by quite a bit

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and what i mean by that specifically is

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we didn't have but only a few

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debris events and the events that we had

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of course were we believe preliminarily

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less than the allowable in terms of size

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and mass

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and

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so we were we were well inside of of the

390
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risk uh that we were willing to accept

391
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and that we thought was acceptable

392
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in terms of uh of debris from this tank

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so

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that's really the part i would highlight

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in the story about et122

396
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and

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as we go forward bill we'll have

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every single detail on every every event

399
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okay we'll move on to seth bernstein

400
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please

401
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yes thank you actually leroy continuing

402
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on the katrina tank here um could you

403
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say

404
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if you look at it with only uh

405
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uh obviously it's preliminary but only

406
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five foam events did that sort of

407
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outperform the normal tanks especially

408
00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:49,519
the normal post

409
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um columbia tent you know the redesigned

410
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tanks yeah so i'm wondering not only did

411
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you exceed

412
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your expectations get to perform better

413
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than the redesigned tanks

414
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well i i don't know that i have enough

415
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data to say that um

416
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and and it would be premature for me to

417
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say that

418
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but certainly um

419
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it it performed better than than

420
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what what most of our expectation was

421
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and our expectation was that it would

422
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have very very good performance

423
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and and that it was

424
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a perfectly good safe tank to go fly

425
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because of the work that the team did

426
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not only the touch labor and the actual

427
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modifications that we did after the tank

428
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was damaged but all the work that we did

429
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in putting it side by side with with our

430
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return to flight tanks

431
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and the various modifications that we

432
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did some of which we did on et 122 but

433
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not all

434
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as you know and so

435
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i'm not quite it would be premature for

436
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me to give you that kind of assessment

437
00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:55,440
that would require me to have

438
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really all of the data in hand

439
00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:58,959
but

440
00:16:02,389 --> 00:16:00,160
overall

441
00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:02,399
it's very easy to say and very easy to

442
00:16:06,230 --> 00:16:04,160
see at this point that the performance

443
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was outstanding

444
00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:08,399
just a second one a second question and

445
00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:10,000
last one for me

446
00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:13,759
um any word from the pat um you know pad

447
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damage and more importantly what does

448
00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:19,120
that mean for uh 135 scheduled was there

449
00:16:22,629 --> 00:16:20,399
any discussion

450
00:16:25,910 --> 00:16:22,639
135 schedule

451
00:16:29,749 --> 00:16:28,069
well see the pad the preliminary

452
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,759
assessment of the pad that we we got a

453
00:16:33,189 --> 00:16:31,120
verbal

454
00:16:34,710 --> 00:16:33,199
report on today is that it looks very

455
00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:34,720
good

456
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there's no major damage um

457
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preliminarily we're seeing the kinds of

458
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small uh very minor items that we

459
00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:42,720
typically see and we'll get a full

460
00:16:47,269 --> 00:16:45,680
report on that uh in in a few days

461
00:16:49,350 --> 00:16:47,279
um so there doesn't appear to be

462
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anything that's that's uh out of family

463
00:16:53,350 --> 00:16:51,279
or outside of the realm of what we

464
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expect for normal quote normal pad

465
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damage

466
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and as it relates to the schedule you

467
00:17:02,310 --> 00:17:01,120
you may know that the pad turn around

468
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is

469
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once we get out of the vertical

470
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integrated flow and and head toward the

471
00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:13,039
pad

472
00:17:21,669 --> 00:17:14,640
the

473
00:17:24,150 --> 00:17:21,679
looks really good so

474
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:24,160
we didn't talk too much about schedule

475
00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:26,799
in terms of the launch date for 135.

476
00:17:31,190 --> 00:17:28,480
i can tell you that

477
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in very broad terms

478
00:17:35,029 --> 00:17:33,039
we're probably looking at somewhere in

479
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the area of the the first

480
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somewhere between the first and second

481
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week of july

482
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but we have to lay all that out and and

483
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look at

484
00:17:46,710 --> 00:17:44,000
all of the things that are necessary

485
00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:46,720
in a normal vertical and pad flow and

486
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then some things that are particular for

487
00:17:53,350 --> 00:17:50,880
this flow to include the uh there's a

488
00:17:54,230 --> 00:17:53,360
there was one or two holidays of course

489
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um

490
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we would like to understand how many

491
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contingency days we have

492
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and then we're going to do

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the

494
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test

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nde

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and so all of those things we need a

497
00:18:10,549 --> 00:18:09,039
little bit more detail on

498
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before we can come up with a definitive

499
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launch date that we would like to target

500
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as an net

501
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launch date and i anticipate

502
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maybe about about this time next week

503
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we'll be able to have that discussion if

504
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okay next is robert pullman

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hi uh

506
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provide an update on srb recovery and

507
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when you expect to see the footage from

508
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okay robert the the boosters are in tow

509
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we expect them to be in in port tonight

510
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is what was reported today

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um

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and then uh

513
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and probably at hangar af um

514
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within a day or so of then so

515
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somewhere

516
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in the probably 24 to 48 hours from now

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that folks can transfer over to us and

518
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,029
okay next is denise chow

519
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hi um denise ciao space.com um i was

520
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:18,400
just wondering if there is a need for

521
00:19:22,310 --> 00:19:20,640
focusing session how will that fit into

522
00:19:23,830 --> 00:19:22,320
the timeline it seems like a very packed

523
00:19:26,230 --> 00:19:23,840
mission i'm just wondering what flight

524
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day that might occur on and if you see

525
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i don't see any problems with the

526
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schedule the

527
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as you know we had

528
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some additional capability

529
00:19:43,110 --> 00:19:40,080
that we were looking at in terms of plus

530
00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:43,120
two days on our previous launch attempt

531
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and

532
00:19:48,150 --> 00:19:46,559
as we moved to this launch attempt

533
00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:48,160
yesterday

534
00:19:51,029 --> 00:19:49,600
all of our assessments said that it

535
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:51,039
would be best if we just go ahead and

536
00:19:53,909 --> 00:19:52,480
add those two days so we started out

537
00:19:56,230 --> 00:19:53,919
with a 16

538
00:19:58,310 --> 00:19:56,240
day mission it's really 16 plus zero

539
00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,320
plus two the plus two being

540
00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:00,400
um on doc days at the end of the mission

541
00:20:05,190 --> 00:20:03,200
to to give us our normal capability for

542
00:20:07,590 --> 00:20:05,200
uh for end emission and weather delays

543
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:07,600
and systems problems

544
00:20:11,590 --> 00:20:09,840
we have a lot of capability

545
00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:11,600
above that

546
00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:13,600
on orbit because we had an on time

547
00:20:17,830 --> 00:20:16,320
launch and because

548
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:17,840
several other factors are coming into

549
00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:20,720
play to include the ams power

550
00:20:24,390 --> 00:20:23,039
consumption is not what it was

551
00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:24,400
anticipated

552
00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:25,760
and so we've got some additional

553
00:20:29,590 --> 00:20:27,120
capability

554
00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:29,600
beyond all of that

555
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:31,600
we have some opportunity in this

556
00:20:34,870 --> 00:20:33,039
timeline to be able to move things

557
00:20:37,990 --> 00:20:34,880
around you know because

558
00:20:40,950 --> 00:20:38,000
of the launch delay because of

559
00:20:42,390 --> 00:20:40,960
the two additional days that we added

560
00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:42,400
the teams worked very hard to come up

561
00:20:46,230 --> 00:20:44,400
with a timeline where they could take

562
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,240
individual flight days and kind of plug

563
00:20:49,830 --> 00:20:48,240
and play them at various places

564
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:49,840
throughout the mission to be able to

565
00:20:53,909 --> 00:20:52,320
optimize the performance of the crew

566
00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:53,919
the shuttle and the station crew as well

567
00:20:57,350 --> 00:20:56,080
as the guys on the ground

568
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:57,360
so it's really

569
00:21:01,750 --> 00:20:59,360
a pretty good setup in terms of us being

570
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:01,760
able to to change things as we go along

571
00:21:06,710 --> 00:21:04,240
if we see a need for that

572
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:06,720
with respect to focus inspection i think

573
00:21:12,070 --> 00:21:10,400
we have it penciled in on flight day six

574
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:12,080
and

575
00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,600
depending on

576
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:15,840
what the area is and why we think we

577
00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:17,600
need a focused inspection and all of the

578
00:21:20,710 --> 00:21:19,600
particulars around that

579
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,720
um

580
00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:22,559
you know we'll add as much time to that

581
00:21:25,590 --> 00:21:24,320
activity as we need because obviously at

582
00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:25,600
that point it's

583
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,240
uh it's a critical uh or at least a a

584
00:21:32,789 --> 00:21:31,039
very important and high of high interest

585
00:21:35,029 --> 00:21:32,799
activity for us so

586
00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:35,039
um i think this timeline

587
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:36,320
um

588
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:38,480
you know will accommodate

589
00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:41,280
will accommodate us if it comes to that

590
00:21:44,950 --> 00:21:42,400
um

591
00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:44,960
and and beyond that i wouldn't want to

592
00:21:47,590 --> 00:21:46,320
speculate because

593
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,600
i'd have to have some significant

594
00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:49,039
problem before that even becomes an

595
00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:50,240
issue so

596
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:51,039
um

597
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:52,400
we're in really very good shape with

598
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:03,750
okay next is todd halverson please

599
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:07,350
uh hi todd halperson of florida today

600
00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:08,640
um

601
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:11,039
leroy i was wondering if you could speak

602
00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,919
in general about um

603
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:15,440
about uh

604
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:18,000
what the concerns are for with other

605
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:21,120
vehicles docking or undocking

606
00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:23,600
with a shuttle president at the station

607
00:22:26,710 --> 00:22:24,320
and

608
00:22:29,830 --> 00:22:26,720
what in particular makes the soyuz

609
00:22:35,270 --> 00:22:29,840
departure in this case acceptable and

610
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,909
well the

611
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:39,190
when when

612
00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,880
vehicles are at space station and they

613
00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:42,000
undock and then they have to do

614
00:22:45,190 --> 00:22:43,280
maneuvers and

615
00:22:47,510 --> 00:22:45,200
separation and in some cases at least

616
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:47,520
some portion of a fly around to get on

617
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:49,600
their proper trajectory to depart from

618
00:22:53,029 --> 00:22:50,880
the area

619
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:53,039
they have to fire thrusters or whatever

620
00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:54,960
attitude maneuvering system that they

621
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,159
have

622
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:58,240
when you do that

623
00:23:01,350 --> 00:22:59,679
then you just want to make sure that the

624
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,360
the other vehicles to include the space

625
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:02,880
station frankly but

626
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,080
in the solar arrays and the other

627
00:23:07,750 --> 00:23:06,159
vehicles that are docked there

628
00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:07,760
are our

629
00:23:10,870 --> 00:23:10,080
clear of the the zones where you might

630
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:10,880
have

631
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:11,760
um

632
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:16,320
of that nature so that that's one of the

633
00:23:19,750 --> 00:23:17,520
concerns

634
00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:19,760
um so what you have to begin to look at

635
00:23:24,230 --> 00:23:21,840
is for an activity like this you know

636
00:23:25,830 --> 00:23:24,240
what port is the vehicle coming from on

637
00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:25,840
the space station

638
00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:29,200
relative to where the shuttle is docked

639
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:31,280
and what profile does it fly in other

640
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,760
words when it when it undocks and then

641
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,520
separates

642
00:23:39,750 --> 00:23:37,600
you know which direction does it go

643
00:23:42,789 --> 00:23:39,760
and then you have to analyze

644
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,799
plumes and when we do that we don't just

645
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:44,640
analyze the nominal trajectory we

646
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:46,559
analyze it off nominal with an envelope

647
00:23:50,950 --> 00:23:49,039
around that with some uncertainty

648
00:23:52,789 --> 00:23:50,960
and so

649
00:23:55,510 --> 00:23:52,799
we do it in a way that's that's

650
00:23:58,070 --> 00:23:55,520
relatively conservative

651
00:24:00,630 --> 00:23:58,080
although that's how we that's where our

652
00:24:03,110 --> 00:24:00,640
confidence is derived from

653
00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:03,120
is that we can handle the you know the

654
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:04,640
worst case if you will if you want to

655
00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:06,960
think about it that way

656
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:08,720
in this case it's been looked at

657
00:24:14,549 --> 00:24:10,320
extensively

658
00:24:16,070 --> 00:24:14,559
for a soyuz undocking from this port

659
00:24:17,029 --> 00:24:16,080
with the shuttle docked

660
00:24:21,029 --> 00:24:17,039
and

661
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:21,039
again as i mentioned earlier we've

662
00:24:24,390 --> 00:24:22,720
leveraged leveraged off a lot of the

663
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:24,400
dual doc ops activities that's been done

664
00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:26,000
for the last couple of years

665
00:24:29,909 --> 00:24:27,600
and and those are the kinds of things

666
00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:29,919
that we look at analytically and and the

667
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,149
thanks and

668
00:24:41,909 --> 00:24:39,120
just a couple more from me

669
00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:41,919
i was wondering if clearances between

670
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:43,520
docking ports are

671
00:24:49,110 --> 00:24:46,080
of any concern physical clearances

672
00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:49,120
between vehicles at this point and to

673
00:24:54,950 --> 00:24:51,919
follow one of mr harwood's questions

674
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:54,960
you were talking about if you did decide

675
00:25:00,149 --> 00:24:57,600
to go do a soyuz fly around that you

676
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,159
would undock and then the station would

677
00:25:03,750 --> 00:25:02,480
make a small maneuver before pictures

678
00:25:05,110 --> 00:25:03,760
were taken

679
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:05,120
is that a

680
00:25:09,750 --> 00:25:07,760
pose being taken by the

681
00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:09,760
space station or exactly why do you do

682
00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:14,870
uh well let's even let me address your

683
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,520
first question about vehicle separation

684
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:19,360
it turns out

685
00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:21,120
when you go do these kind of activities

686
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:24,080
at least from a shuttle

687
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:26,960
centric standpoint

688
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:29,840
if you if you have enough capability and

689
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:31,679
enough clearance from a

690
00:25:34,549 --> 00:25:32,720
and we'll just go back to plume

691
00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,559
impingement for a minute

692
00:25:38,630 --> 00:25:36,720
um by the time you you have the

693
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:38,640
clearance and the capability you need or

694
00:25:42,630 --> 00:25:39,760
if you want to think of it the

695
00:25:45,110 --> 00:25:42,640
protection for the shuttle

696
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:45,120
you by definition have enough physical

697
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:47,200
separation of the vehicles because what

698
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:48,640
you find out is when you begin to

699
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,000
envelope

700
00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:52,080
and then put some uncertainty on those

701
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:53,720
envelopes for the actual plume

702
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,880
environments um you are physically

703
00:26:00,149 --> 00:25:58,240
separated

704
00:26:02,310 --> 00:26:00,159
a pretty good distance

705
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:02,320
from one vehicle to the next so

706
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:04,080
the actual you know how close to the

707
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:05,760
vehicles get really doesn't become an

708
00:26:09,350 --> 00:26:07,600
issue because

709
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:09,360
because of what you're doing to protect

710
00:26:14,710 --> 00:26:12,400
for for the plume impingement

711
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:14,720
with respect to the maneuver

712
00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:17,200
it's really as i understand the plan

713
00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,559
that the folks are working on it's

714
00:26:22,390 --> 00:26:20,880
really a maneuver that will just allow

715
00:26:25,830 --> 00:26:22,400
the

716
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:25,840
allow

717
00:26:28,549 --> 00:26:27,279
the crew on the soyuz to get a little

718
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:28,559
bit better

719
00:26:31,830 --> 00:26:30,320
photo in terms of getting a better

720
00:26:35,269 --> 00:26:31,840
perspective

721
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:35,279
of the entire space station

722
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:37,200
and and the vehicles that are docked to

723
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:39,760
it so rather than just looking

724
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:42,159
straight up or down one axis or

725
00:26:46,549 --> 00:26:45,279
or in plane if you will

726
00:26:48,950 --> 00:26:46,559
it's just to get a little bit better

727
00:26:50,470 --> 00:26:48,960
perspective

728
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,480
and to get a little bit better

729
00:26:54,870 --> 00:26:52,559
photography overall in terms of lighting

730
00:26:58,310 --> 00:26:54,880
and and all the things all of the all

731
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:58,320
the considerations in that regard

732
00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,400
thanks that's all

733
00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:02,000
okay thank you that's all on the line

734
00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,950
i think some of the discussion last week

735
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:14,720
was that

736
00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:16,000
that

737
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:18,559
you might not be able to get the quote

738
00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:21,039
high quality window view for the

739
00:27:24,389 --> 00:27:22,480
photography

740
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,399
that may have all changed and i just

741
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:25,760
don't know if there's anything you might

742
00:27:28,789 --> 00:27:27,039
be able to

743
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,799
update with regard to that in other

744
00:27:33,750 --> 00:27:30,480
words it was sort of like you could get

745
00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:33,760
a good shot but it might not be of the

746
00:27:37,510 --> 00:27:36,080
the highest quality that maybe would

747
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,520
have from the

748
00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:39,120
previous planning

749
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:42,480
and i just wondered if that's changed or

750
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:43,760
you're still

751
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,399
your goal is is the highest quality or a

752
00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,720
good shot

753
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,799
uh well you you

754
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:52,559
you're talking about details of the plan

755
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:56,000
that that you know frankly um

756
00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:57,760
the team still needs to brief to us i

757
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:59,600
can tell you that that

758
00:28:02,549 --> 00:28:01,360
my understanding is obviously we want to

759
00:28:04,389 --> 00:28:02,559
get a

760
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,399
high quality

761
00:28:07,830 --> 00:28:06,399
photograph there wouldn't be much point

762
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:07,840
in

763
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:13,200
like this if that wasn't our plan

764
00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:15,120
i think that

765
00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:17,840
in looking at it in a little bit greater

766
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:20,559
depth depth and detail the team was able

767
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:21,840
to

768
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,120
figure out a way that we can get the

769
00:28:27,669 --> 00:28:25,520
crew member crew members

770
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:27,679
in the in the soyuz in the right places

771
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:29,120
at the right time to be able to take

772
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,880
high quality photos

773
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:32,240
and

774
00:28:37,269 --> 00:28:35,039
so we're going to have

775
00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:37,279
a lot more detail on exactly what we're

776
00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,520
doing and how it's timelined and and

777
00:28:42,870 --> 00:28:41,679
who's doing what and which vehicles and

778
00:28:45,190 --> 00:28:42,880
on and on

779
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:45,200
and we can report that out to you and i

780
00:28:49,110 --> 00:28:47,200
would intend to report that out to you

781
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:49,120
before we get to that point

782
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:51,120
this is an activity that will be

783
00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:53,120
performed and we would execute this on

784
00:28:55,909 --> 00:28:54,480
monday

785
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:55,919
of next week so

786
00:28:59,350 --> 00:28:57,679
we have a little bit of time

787
00:29:05,669 --> 00:28:59,360
and i anticipate we'll get some more

788
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:07,350
okay with that that will wrap up our

789
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:09,520
flight day two coverage in our briefings

790
00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:11,120
we'll send it back to mission control

791
00:29:15,029 --> 00:29:12,399
here momentarily

792
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:15,039
and during the crew sleep shift we'll be

793
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:16,880
playing the video highlights from flight

794
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:19,360
day 2 at the top of the hour and then

795
00:29:23,750 --> 00:29:21,120
the crew the shuttle crew is scheduled

796
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:23,760
to awaken at 9 56 pm central time

797
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:26,240
tonight and start getting ready for

798
00:29:29,669 --> 00:29:28,080
docking and endeavors docking to the

799
00:29:32,470 --> 00:29:29,679
international space station is scheduled